# The &ktalkd; Handbook

David Faure

    faure@kde.org

&FDLNotice;
2001 David Faure
2001-05-02
1.05.02

&ktalkd; is an enhanced `talk` daemon - a program to handle incoming `talk` requests, announce them and allow you to respond to it using a talk client.

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## Introduction

&ktalkd; is an enhanced `talk` daemon - a program to handle incoming `talk` requests, announce them and allow you to respond to it using a `talk` client.

Note that &ktalkd; is designed to run on a single-user workstation, and shouldn't be run on a multi-user machine: since it reads users' configuration files, users can get the `talk` daemon to run any command, which is particularly dangerous. Do not use &ktalkd; if you create accounts on your machine, to people you don't fully trust.

In this document, if somebody wants to talk to you, you are designated as the callee.

&ktalkd; has the following features :

Answering machine

  If the callee isn't logged on, or doesn't answer after the second announcement, an answering machine is launched, takes the message, and mails it to the callee.

Sound

  If desired, a sound is played with the announcement.

X Announce

  If compiled with &kde; installed, &ktalkd; will use `ktalkdlg`, a &kde; dialog, for announcement. If &ktalk; is running, it will be asked to make the announcement itself. (New since 0.8.8).

Multiple displays annoucement

  If you are logged remotely (⪚ with an ``export` `DISPLAY`=...` command), the X announcement will be made on this display too. Answer on the one you want! If you're also logged in a text terminal, and if you're not using xterms (internal restriction), then you'll see a text announcement too, in case you're using the text terminal at the time of the announcement.

Forwarding (New since 0.8.0)

  You can set up a forward to another user even to another host if you're away. There are 3 different forwarding methods. See section Usage.

Configuration

  If &ktalkd; is compiled for &kde;, it reads config from &kde; config files, the sitewide (`$`KDEDIR`/share/config/ktalkdrc`) and the user one, in its home directory. The sitewide one has to be manually edited by the administrator, but there is now a configuration dialog for the user one. It's called `kcmktalkd` and can be found in the &kcontrol; after installing &ktalkd;. On non-&kde; systems, &ktalkd; will read `/etc/talkd.conf`.

Internationalization

  Under &kde;, the announcement will be in your language provided that you set it in the &kde; menus and that someone translated `ktalkdlg` to your language. The same goes for the configuration dialog, `kcmktalkd`.

Support for `otalk` and `ntalk` (New since 0.8.1)

  &ktalkd; now supports both protocols, even when forwarding. &ktalk; supports both protocols as well.

I hope you will enjoy this talk daemon,

David Faure faure@kde.org

## Usage

To use &ktalkd;, you need a `talk` client. The text-based `talk` is available on most &UNIX; systems. Try ``talk` your_username` to see what happens when you receive a `talk` request.

You can also try the answering machine the same way: initiate a `talk` to yourself, ignore the announcement twice, and you'll see the answering machine.

There is a `talk` client with a graphical interface for &kde;, &ktalk;. It's not yet shipped with &kde; packages, but you can find it on ftp://ftp.kde.org. It should be in ftp://ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/latest/apps/network

The announcement dialog box is trivial: respond or ignore.

The configuration dialog should be rather straight forward, except for setting up a forward to another user (or even to another host).

### Choosing a Forwarding Method

None is perfect, they all have pros (+) and cons (-).

FWA - Forward announcement only.

  Direct connection. Not recommended.

  - (+) You know who the caller is, but

  - (-) Caller will have to respond to an announcement from you. Annoying.

  - (-) Don't use if you have an answering machine on your away location. (The answering machine can't popup an announcement, it would be confusing!)

FWR - Forward all requests, changing info when necessary

  Direct connection.

  - (+) Caller won't know that you're away, but

  - (-) You won't really know who the caller is - only his username, (so you might see `talk from Wintalk@my_host`)

FWT - Forward all requests and take the talk.

  No direct connection.

  - (+) Same as above, but also works if you and caller can't be in direct contact one with the other (⪚ firewall).

  - (+) You'll be told who's really talking to you when you accept the talk

  - (-) But as in FWR, you won't know his machine name in the announcement

In short, use FWT it you want to use it behind a firewall (and if &ktalkd; can access both networks), and FWR otherwise.

## Questions and Answers

Why doesn't root receive &kde; announcements?

Because this would be security hole, with the current user detection. You can bypass the limitation by adding two lines in `xdm` config files (which are the same as &kdm; ones).

The S.u.S.E &Linux; distribution includes those lines by default.

Those config files are normally in a directory such as `/etc/X11/xdm`, or `/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm` on other systems. The following supposes that they are in `/etc/X11/xdm`, so you might have to translate them for another directory.

Here is what you have to do:

- Edit the file `Xstartup`, or create it, (in the `xdm` config directory) so that it reads:

      #!/bin/sh
      /etc/X11/xdm/GiveConsole
      sessreg -a -l $DISPLAY -x /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers $USER

- and the file `Xreset` so that it reads:

      #!/bin/sh
      /etc/X11/xdm/TakeConsole
      sessreg -d -l $DISPLAY $USER

- Make sure that `xdm-config` make reference to those two files:

      DisplayManager._0.startup:      /etc/X11/xdm/Xstartup
      DisplayManager._0.reset:        /etc/X11/xdm/Xreset

This will make &kdm; (or `xdm`) log the user into utmp, which is the right thing to do. It's not up to &konsole;, nor `xterm`, to log the user, but to `xdm` and &kdm;, in my opinion. However, this will not log the user as an X user when using `startx`... Any hint about that ?

Why don't I, as a normal user, receive &kde; announcments?

If you're running a &Linux; system (with `/proc` enabled), this behaviour is a bug. Please send me a description of it so that I correct it.

If you're running &Linux; 2.0.35, this is a known bug in the kernel, which doesn't let root read `/proc`. The solution is the same as in the previous question, provided that you run &kdm; or `xdm` to log into X. Or upgrade!

Otherwise, this is normal. &ktalkd; can't find the user, as &kde; doesn't log him into utmp and the &Linux; based (`/proc`) detection is disabled. The solution is the same as in the previous question, provided that you run kdm or xdm to log into X. Another solution is to make sure you always have an xterm running.

How do I get debug output from &ktalkd;?

As it is a daemon, there is no debug output on standard output. To get debugging output (for instance before submitting me a bug report!), update the lines in `inetd.conf` which launches &ktalkd; and &kotalkd; to be:

    talk   dgram   udp     wait    root    /usr/sbin/tcpd  /opt/kde/bin/kotalkd -d
    ntalk  dgram   udp     wait    root    /usr/sbin/tcpd  /opt/kde/bin/ktalkd -d

Notice the `-d` option.

Then edit `/etc/syslog.conf` to add the following line:

    *.*         /var/log/all_messages

To make it work, you then have to restart `inetd` and `syslogd`:

    % killall -HUP inetd
    % killall -HUP syslogd

Finally, run a `talk` session and see the result in `/var/log/all_messages`

When submitting a bug report, never forget to include the debugging output, but also &ktalkd;'s version number and the `./configure` output. Thanks.

## Copyright and Licenses

&ktalkd; is maintained and improved by David Faure, faure@kde.org

The original program was written by Robert Cimrman, cimrman3@students.zcu.cz

&underFDL; &underGPL;

## Installation

### How to obtain &ktalkd;

&ktalkd; is now a core application of the &kde; project http://www.kde.org, part of the kdenetwork package.

You can always download the latest &ktalkd; from the main &FTP; site of the &kde; project, ftp://ftp.kde.org/pub/kde and from its mirrors. It's usually found in ftp://ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/latest/apps/network

### Requirements

In order to successfully compile &ktalkd;, you need the latest versions of the &kde; libraries as well as the &Qt; C++ library. All required libraries as well as ktalkd itself can be found on ftp://ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/.

### Compilation and Installation

In order to compile and install &ktalkd; on your system, type the following in the base directory of the &ktalkd; distribution:

    % ./configure
    % make
    % make install

As &ktalkd; is a daemon, ``make` `install`` will require root privileges.

Don't forget to update `/etc/inetd.conf`. For example, on a &Linux; system, if &kde; is in `/opt/kde`, change the lines concerning `talk` and `ntalk` to:

    talk   dgram   udp     wait    root    /usr/sbin/tcpd  /opt/kde/bin/kotalkd
    ntalk  dgram   udp     wait    root    /usr/sbin/tcpd  /opt/kde/bin/ktalkd

A script is provided, to make the necessary change automatically. Update your `inetd.conf` file just by running

    % ./post-install.sh

Anyway, you'll have to restart inetd after this. On most &Linux; systems, do:

    % killall -HUP inetd

On newer systems, using `xinetd`, there is no more `/etc/inetd.conf`, and you should edit or create `/etc/xinetd.d/talk` instead, with those lines:

    service talk
    {
    	socket_type = dgram
    	wait = yes
    	user = root
    	server = /usr/bin/kotalkd
    }

    service ntalk
    {
    	socket_type = dgram
    	wait = yes
    	user = root
    	server = /usr/bin/ktalkd
    }

then restart `xinetd`.

Please inform me of any modification you had to undertake in order to get &ktalkd; to compile or work on your platform.